Deftones guitarist Stephen Carpenter has doubled down on his belief that the Earth is flat, asserting that “there’s far more evidence” to support his position than there is to support the notion that the Earth is round.
Furthermore, he has now asserted that 9/11 never happened, cementing his reputation as a true moron.
The guitarist first expressed his opinion about the shape of our planet this past November, during an appearance on a podcast called Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli :
“The simplest terms for my perspective with flat Earth is simply, I know we’re not on a spinning, flying space ball. Now, what it actually is and all that and, and, and to what depths it goes to, that’s all still to be discovered and people are are working on those things.”
(He also took a stance as an anti-vaxxer, which is a whole other conversation.)
During a recent appearance on Hatebreed’s Jamey Jasta’s The Jasta Show Featuring Jamey Jasta From Hatebreed, the guitarist reiterated his claim [transcribed by Theprp.com]:
“We’re all blind believers in the fact that we live on a globe. But when you go to prove that you live on a globe, or even otherwise try to prove that the flat Earth conversation is not true, you end up going to the other side. Because there’s far more evidence when the conversation is about flat Earth than there is about the globe. You know, all of our knowledge in regards to the globe is based on our beliefs and our education.
“But when you actually look… Your instincts and your feelings don’t ever tell you that you live on, on a spinning flying, space ball. That’s not what you feel. You know, if you were walking on a treadmill right now at a half mile per hour, and I unplugged it, you would feel that. But somehow you can spin around at 1000 miles per hour… 600,000 miles per hour and more, and you can’t feel any of that? I mean, at some point… What I had discovered when I went through this whole trying to prove what was and what wasn’t; I’m only discovering information that I was unaware of before on that path.
“And it, it just keeps being one more thing that makes sense after another. And I had realized and I’d always ask people, since you know I kind of opened up to it, and I was just like, ‘Well, what’s your threshold for BS?’ You know? ‘What’s your real threshold for bullshit?’ Now I want to say something. It’s a rhetorical question I know what your threshold for bullshit is, and all of you, I know what your threshold is. It’s generally pretty low.
“You know if I’m telling you some straight up bullshit, and you know I’m telling you some bullshit, because you already know the truth. Your desire to hear me continue with the bullshit will only be based on our relationship.
“If I mean anything to you, you’ll hear me out. Because maybe you just want to see how far will I take this damn story. But if I’m not important to you, you really don’t have any time or interest in hearing bullshit. You know I mean unless you’re really bored. But you know I mean generally, people don’t got time for it.
“We got other pressing issues in our lives that we want to do and think about. And so, when you actually take the legitimate time to look into the subject, you know really discover the things that people are actually talking about you will change your perspective. All the people that are in flat Earth were all people who believe they lived on a globe, until they actually looked at it and they’re like ‘Oh damn. We’re not on a globe.’”
Asked to elaborate on this supposed mountain of evidence, Carpenter completely failed to provide any actual facts or even harebrained theories, opting instead just to pass the buck:
“I can just tell you and everyone who is watching, you can go to a YouTube channel called Flat Earth Sun, Moon & Zodiac Clock App. There’s an actual app for it—that’s the name of the app. You can go on there and they have everything from short videos to long videos, and all this stuff. I mean literally all your questions are explained with multiple videos, reiterating the same point over and over.
“There’s another channel I really love, it’s called Don’t Sphere the Truth. And I’ve watched every video on that. I’ve watched some that have been deleted already—-We’re in the age of don’t talk the truth, ’cause that’s crazy. We don’t want people to hear the truth. Stay asleep, don’t wake up. So if the mainstream narrative is the thing for you, then I say enjoy it. But just don’t be mad at other people when they’re trying to wake you up. Don’t be confused when people are trying to wake you up.”
He further asserted that he’s never seen a curved horizon when flying in an airplane:
“I have had my perspective and belief changed. And it’s been changed based on what I believe to be evidence and facts, that pointed out… Things that I can personally attest to myself. Like I said, I can go to the coast and I can visually let my eyes see that the horizon is perfectly flat. I know what this looks like when I’m flying in a plane.
“I look out left and front side of the plane and can see forever in either direction. I would be able to do the same forwards and backwards if the plane had front windows you could look out, and rear windows you could look out—but they don’t provide you with that. You only get the perspective from left or right… If you look, you can see it. But I base my opinions on the things that I can personally attest to, and those are things that I can attest to.”
Carpenter went on to declare that there’s no such thing as an atomic bomb…
“What I think, my opinion about them that I don’t believe that they exist and that’s based on all the videos that I’ve seen in regards to that subject. And I want to first of all say thank you YouTube, you’re the one that’s given me all this great information.”
…or, for that matter, outer space:
“There is no such thing as space. The only thing that has been launched into space, ever, is all of humanity’s imagination.”
So where do all the photos and video footage taken in space come from?
“It’s all a great show. We’re being given a great show and that’s all I can say.”
The conversation then naturally turned aliens, because of course it did. Jasta pointed to this footage, which allegedly shows a UFO, which is when Carpenter jumped the shark from being an amusing nutcase to being indefensibly reprehensible:
“There’s footage of a plane hitting the World Trade Center, too.”
In conclusion, Stephen Carpenter seems like a real cool dude and a smart person.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m gonna check into a mental hospital; I was living in Manhattan on 9/11, but apparently I imagined the whole thing and desperately need treatment.